Issue 3 - Page 17

7th Oct 2016, 8:47 PM in Birthright - Part 3
Issue 3 - Page 17
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Steven-Vincent 7th Oct 2016, 8:47 PM edit delete
Steven-Vincent
Sorry I'm a few hours late on the update -- I thought I had set this to update automatically!

Note: Starting next week, I am going to begin a new section of the site called "Road to G3" -- This area will feature previews of the characters as I convert them to the newer Genesis 3 model. Liberty Lass will be the first converted, assuming I can get her to look right. So far I am still working on the costume. Check "Road to G3" for previews.

Note 2: As a small vote incentive, I will preview the Road to G3 images first on Top Webcomics. Then as new ones are added there, I will post the old ones here... Starting today.
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jamie59 7th Oct 2016, 9:22 PM edit delete reply
jamie59
He's thinking oh shit she has a brain too.
Steven-Vincent 7th Oct 2016, 9:25 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Heheh yeah. Abby's a history buff so looking stuff up is kind of her thing.
Gilrandir 7th Oct 2016, 10:18 PM edit delete reply
I doubt that anyone who has failed to realize that "the Law isn't about what you know, it's about what you can prove," is going to particularly impress him with her acumen. Although he is probably making note of the fact that, should she survive long enough to gain some real world experience, she could become a real irritant. Or asset.
Gilrandir 7th Oct 2016, 10:31 PM edit delete reply
This inspires a real pitfall it will be interesting to see how Abby navigates. The U.S. Constitution provides a number of protections for the citizens and residents of the U.S. against their government. Many things that it is permissible for a private citizen to do (such as discriminate against someone on the basis of race) are prohibited to the government by the constitution. (Legal protections for minorities from private citizens are provided by legislation, not the constitution, as far as I know.)

The point being that, although Abby is mostly a private citizen, by virtue of her extraordinary abilities she seems to be falling into a gray area when she starts protecting the rights of others. That is, technically, a governmental function, so is she operating (to some extent) under similar restrictions? In which case would intimidating a malefactor into confessing and implicating their confederates violate the 5th Amendment guarantees against self-incrimination? She could lose her powers in a hurry if she wasn't careful.
Steven-Vincent 8th Oct 2016, 1:57 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
There is a body of law in this world that affects superhero behavior and what is (and is not) admissible in court, and the like. This will be the subject of the 3rd story arc, currently planned for issues 9-11 or 9-12.

*Right now* all that's happening is one citizen is speaking to another. Kludge is a city councilman but like most smaller cities and towns this is not a full-time job, so he also is a businessman. They're standing in his private Daystar Properties office. As the brochures on the desk say, though I don't think they're large enough to read them in this scene.

Kludge is also a lawyer and knows his rights... as you will see in the next few pages.
Gilrandir 8th Oct 2016, 4:14 PM edit delete reply
Actually I was talking about her interview with Homewrecker. Holding someone by the throat off the ground and refusing to let them down until they provide incriminating details about their involvement in a criminal conspiracy would appear to be at least some degree of coerced confession.
Steven-Vincent 8th Oct 2016, 8:57 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Actually, LL had Homie by the armor, not the throat. I actually spent a lot of time figuring out how to use the D-former to crumple the armor... and then it turned out to be almost invisible in the shot. :/

Abby's not a deputized officer of the law, so the rules about 'coerced confessions' don't really apply to her. Sure, it's not admissible in a court of law, but Abby didn't take it to court. She took it to Kludge's office.

Once the cops got Homie to jail, she was properly interrogated with a lawyer present. That is what the D.A. will use to prosecute the case. And as you saw earlier in the issue, there were plenty of witnesses and even a HeroTube video of the whole thing, to prove exactly what Homewrecker did.
Guest 8th Oct 2016, 9:10 PM edit delete reply
And I guess that's the issue I'm asking about ... Although she is not a deputized officer of the law, she has been given special powers by (apparently) the Constitution itself. Which raises the question of whether she is allowed to violate those constitutional protections with her special powers, even though they don't derive from any governmental source.

As far as the neck thing goes, grabbed by the armor (in the general region of the neck) is understood. It's more the threat of force I'm raising than assuming any actual pain or damage was involved.
Gilrandir 8th Oct 2016, 9:12 PM edit delete reply
Sorry. Failed to log in. That was me.
Steven-Vincent 8th Oct 2016, 10:08 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Abby's powers come from the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

Also the Constitution limits what the government can and can't do, not what private citizens can and can't do. Abby's a private citizen. The powers do not change that.
Gilrandir 8th Oct 2016, 11:30 PM edit delete reply
Ah, my mistake. Thanks.
demcleod 7th Oct 2016, 10:12 PM edit delete reply
demcleod
Mr. Sludge is a good name for him! lol
Comic Fan 8th Oct 2016, 11:54 AM edit delete reply
She needs to be careful saying she goes to the library. It wouldn't be hard to get the video files from the cloud and look for the only young blonde girl in the place studying the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.

If she's not got the app on her smartphone by now, she should carry the pocket versions. She could always autograph them and give them away to bystanders.
Steven-Vincent 8th Oct 2016, 2:00 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
She was in her school's library. There are no video cameras in there.

Also... he'd need to know which school she goes to, out the various high schools in the city. Even if he knew she meant the school library and not a public library.

And then how would he know for sure if she's got blond hair or is wearing a wig. *We* know, but no one else would.
Number 6 10th Oct 2016, 2:57 AM edit delete reply
Heck, in a world with superpowers, for all he knows, she could be a shapeshifter. Her secret identity could be that she's a 300lb 7ft tall brunette guy. (Plus superheros all come with the Clark-Kent-Unrecognizability Superpower as standard issue anyway)
Steven-Vincent 10th Oct 2016, 7:43 AM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Kludge has a different way of thinking about how to deal with a superhero... as will become evident in Issue 4.
Diamond655 10th Oct 2016, 11:53 PM edit delete reply
The comic has been great so far. Read through the whole archive.

I'll definitely be reading more.

-Diamond
Steven-Vincent 11th Oct 2016, 7:48 AM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Glad you're enjoying it. There's lots more to come!
Diamond655 11th Oct 2016, 6:41 PM edit delete reply
On another note, I just love how you word things in the comic - they're never worded in a way that makes them more partial to the current "modern" area. In 10-20 years, this will still be a way people talk, most likely.

Reminds me of the Star Wars movies, which were made in the 70's but the language used still felt "modern," in a way, with few exceptions ("Nerf-herder" will never be a normal thing to say. Never.)
Steven-Vincent 11th Oct 2016, 7:50 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Thanks for the compliment.

I work really hard on dialogue because it's always been my weakness (in prose, I have historically been better at narrative descriptions rather than conversation). I guess the hard work paid off.
Comic Fan 15th Oct 2016, 12:29 PM edit delete reply
Yes, it is paying off. The dialog is great, with "just the right amount" of cheese sprinkled on top. ;)
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