Issue 3 - Page 23

18th Nov 2016, 6:00 PM in Birthright - Part 3
Issue 3 - Page 23
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Steven-Vincent 18th Nov 2016, 6:00 PM edit delete
Steven-Vincent
I really enjoyed writing the exchange between Abby and TJ. I couldn't squeeze him into issue 4 but he has a prominent role in the next major story arc (issues 5-7).
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Centcomm 18th Nov 2016, 6:07 PM edit delete reply
Centcomm
very nice page .. well done on the art :D
the exchange is very well done too.
Steven-Vincent 18th Nov 2016, 6:12 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Thanks. I was pretty happy with how this page turned out.

TJ is one of my favorite characters to write.
Drake 18th Nov 2016, 7:09 PM edit delete reply
Sure, that's the reason superheros usually give for why they need a secret identity, but we all know the *real* reason why they have to keep their regular identity separate from their crimefighting identity: Lawyers.
Steven-Vincent 18th Nov 2016, 8:29 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Funny you should say that. This very idea will be canvassed in the 3rd story arc.
Drake 18th Nov 2016, 8:44 PM edit delete reply
Makes sense, Lawyers and Politicians are the natural enemies of Liberty!
jamie59 18th Nov 2016, 10:15 PM edit delete reply
jamie59
That was well handled. It just might work. Remember I said might.
Seanimusprime98 19th Nov 2016, 2:38 AM edit delete reply
Seanimusprime98
This is really awesome man. Every single bit of this. The story, the art, the characters....just simply amazing! A masterpiece!! Really hope that you and me can do a crossover between superheroes one day :)

But I can't wait for more!!
Steven-Vincent 19th Nov 2016, 8:11 AM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Uh oh... a crossover! Crisis on Infinite Webcomic Earths!

Heheh.
shastab24 19th Nov 2016, 11:08 AM edit delete reply
shastab24
Crisis on Infinite Webcomic Earths? Reminds me of the Crossover Wars.
Steven-Vincent 19th Nov 2016, 11:57 AM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Don't worry... COIE is basically the dividing line (along with Secret Wars from the previous year) between the Bronze Age and the 'Modern' age. Since LL is a Bronze Age comic, she cannot get involved in a COIE type event.

Now, on the other hand, 'guest appearances' or stand-alone 'one shot' stories where characters from different worlds meet, those were a major staple of the 1970s and early 80s and would be entirely genre-appropriate for LL. ;)
Comic Fan 19th Nov 2016, 11:55 PM edit delete reply
Uh, no.

From the bottom of my heart, I ask this: No "Infinite Earths", no multiple timelines, no alien swarms from alternate universes, no moving the Earth out of its orbit and then moving it back again (and no snuffing out the sun or stealing the moon either, please!), no time travel; not even flying around the Earth backwards. It's been done before. Finally, no battles in Hell and SERIOUSLY: No "Elseworlds".

Stay away from eternally-self-resurrecting characters such as Brainiac or Darkseid, and don't succumb to characters used solely for comic effect, such as "Izzy/Noogie" (Miami Vice), or "Enos" (Dukes of Hazzard), or "Barney Fife" (Andy Griffith).

Hollywood, DC, and Marvel do all of those lame things all the time as if they believe it's a guaranteed recipe for success, but all it does is frustrate the reader/viewer and waste his/her time with too many 2-dimensional characters that have little to do with the story.

2D characters (not to be confused with minor characters or "extras" like the people in that great post-Homewrecker scene) don't serve the story and they ultimately water down the brand.

The best stories are those that treat even the somewhat goofy characters with personalities, even having them show real grit and honor once in awhile. Everybody is capable of something great. Staying true to the characters is always the best plan.

Some great examples of outstanding characterizations include: "Batman: Year One", "BATMAN: The Long Halloween", the Superman story "Under a Yellow Sun", and the big DC graphic novels done about 20 years ago. One of the best Batman stories ever told was about how Batman found the guy who killed Bruce Wayne's parents (Hint: It was NOT the Joker). It was a tough and poignant story about how best to deal with this pure, unadulterated evil, and it was such a very well crafted story that it felt to me like it should have been made into a movie. Oh and yeah, there were no space monsters in that entire comic book.

If you keep and honor the heart and soul of the characters you've created, you will always be able to make even a simple story flow as if it were a saga. And that's what this is; a saga, yes?

My initial trepidation with TJ was that he could become too flat of a character, always getting in trouble and always causing Abbey to spend valuable time getting people out of TJ's trouble. He's 9, not 5. I've known some fairly responsible 9-year-olds who don't always get into trouble, and who'll surprise you with just how observant and sophisticated they can be at times. The eye-to-eye conversation between Abbey and TJ on this page helped alleviate my concern, if only a little bit.

But still...no gimmickry, please. You don't need it, I promise!

/rant :)
Steven-Vincent 21st Nov 2016, 8:00 AM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Comic Fan, most of the things you don't like, I would not be able to do even if I wanted to (like time travel) because of the limitations of the 3D art. There would need to be tons of resources available for other time periods and, other than perhaps the future, those just do not exist on the DAZ shop or Renderosity, and I have no time nor ability to make them myself.

I hate gimmicks so you don't have to worry about whether there will be gimmicks or not. Like Drake says I don't have to worry about 'sales.' Crossover one-shots are fun to joke about but I don't have time to do any more than the 1 page a week that gets posted here. In fact I am getting behind on that. I still have all of issue 4 done, but I had that done 2 months ago and haven't produced anything new since trying to convert Abby to Genesis 3.

Which I've finally given up on. I can't get it to look right, so I am going to stick with Genesis 2 for the next story arc.
Comic Fan 19th Nov 2016, 11:57 PM edit delete reply
By the way, I really liked how you had Abbey kneel down to come down to TJ's eye-level for this conversation. That's one excellent big sister.
Drake 21st Nov 2016, 3:06 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, what he said! Not that I really expect you to do any of that stuff anyway. Much of it wouldn't fit in with the bronze age theme to begin with. Plus, the good thing about webcomicing is you don't have to make a living off of it (though it would be nice if you could) so there's no meddling execs to tel;l you how their latest great idea is guaranteed to bring in the big bucks so now put it in the story or else! And there's not 3 dozen different writers writing 3 dozen conflicting versions of the same character and all trying to one-up each other. Turns out some pretty good stuff can come out when one person has creative control over their own creation. And, if not, well, nobody's forcing us to read it right? ;)
Steven-Vincent 21st Nov 2016, 8:06 AM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
And nobody's charging you $4.99 an issue to read it either. ;)
Drake 22nd Nov 2016, 3:16 AM edit delete reply
You haven't been getting those checks I've been sending? That's odd. Darn snail-mail, so unreliable.
DizzasterJuice 22nd Nov 2016, 4:19 AM edit delete reply
DizzasterJuice
No big sister is this nice in real life. They usually blackmail you to keep your mouth shut, like threatening to expose your secret porn stash, or telling your parents that you've been sneaking through the next door neighbor's daughter's window at night...

Or did I just have cruel sisters and everyone else's are this nice? :D
B. Franklin 24th Nov 2016, 6:26 PM edit delete reply
@DizzasterJuice - This is why your sisters never got selected by the Spirit of Liberty to receive awesome superpowers - they were violating your inalienable right to Pursuit of Happiness! Abby would never do such a thing!
Steven-Vincent 26th Nov 2016, 9:23 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Abby and TJ definitely fight. All brothers and sisters do. She does call him the cockroach after all... with good reason.
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