Issue 3 - Page 26

9th Dec 2016, 6:00 PM in Birthright - Part 3
Issue 3 - Page 26
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Steven-Vincent 9th Dec 2016, 6:00 PM edit delete
Steven-Vincent
And so ends the first story arc for Liberty Lass!

Hope everyone enjoyed it.

We have the credits and a back-cover preview coming this month. Then, because I want to stay 'on time' for 1 issue each 6 months, I am going to wait until the first Friday of 2017 to begin releasing issue 4. Don't worry, Issue 4 is completely done (has been since August), so there is no delay. But I don't want to start it on the very last week of the year. Plus it's the holidays so I can't be 100% sure I will have an internet connection while I travel.
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Centcomm 9th Dec 2016, 7:40 PM edit delete reply
Centcomm
very nice final panel :D
Steven-Vincent 9th Dec 2016, 7:58 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Thanks.

It was a fun story arc to write.
jamie59 9th Dec 2016, 10:41 PM edit delete reply
jamie59
What not going to carry him like a baby.
Diamond655 9th Dec 2016, 11:07 PM edit delete reply
Is holding him by the arm really the safest way of taking him for a flight? She might drop him or something.
Steven-Vincent 10th Dec 2016, 2:12 AM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Well considering she can lift a battleship, carrying him is a pretty trivial task.

Besides, it worked for Christopher Reeve in the original Superman movie. ;)
Drake 10th Dec 2016, 2:25 AM edit delete reply
For virtually all flight-capable supers, the flight ability seems to work as a field that surrounds them and extends to encompass any physical object of small to moderate size that they are even slightly in contact with giving said items or persons an extension of their inertialess/gravitic/whatever-it-is flight capability. Whether or not this is actually officially claimed in their description, it is effectively how the power works. In fact, this is the only possible conceivable way that the whole flying-with-Lois scene in that movie made any sense at all.
Centcomm 10th Dec 2016, 7:00 AM edit delete reply
Centcomm
the main difference is that some.. like Ironman couldn't do this as he uses physics to fly. The superman TK flight field is a reasonable assumption on the part of LL here. :D im betting.
Steven-Vincent 10th Dec 2016, 8:58 AM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
OK so on a serious note in terms of how flight works, since the Reeve thing was a joke, LL does not have TK. Nor is she imparting a TK field to TJ.

She's flying really quickly and holding him up so he doesn't fall, and TJ, being a kid who always wanted to fly, is throwing his other arm out and shouting about how Epic it is. The wind resistance is helping him do it but it's mostly him being a ham. There is no 'TK field'.
Gilrandir 10th Dec 2016, 11:29 AM edit delete reply
@Centcomm -- "
... like Ironman couldn't do this as he uses physics to fly. ...
"

Really? ^_^ There have been many different versions of Superman's flight, going back to when it was just "... leaping tall buildings in a single bound. ...". Iron Man's flight is just as implausible under real world physics as any of them.

Doesn't change the fact that flight is cool. ^_^

On a side note: Why is Abby not wearing her visor? From an art standpoint it probably makes it easier to show her "put-upon" expression, but ... <shrug>
Steven-Vincent 10th Dec 2016, 11:36 AM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
She dropped the goggles earlier in the scene. They walked onto the balcony. He asked to fly. She said OK let's go... and took him up. She forgot to go back and get the goggles. Also, there is no need to hide who she is from TJ anymore.

They are high enough up that nobody would be able to ID her without the goggles.
Gilrandir 10th Dec 2016, 1:15 PM edit delete reply
I can understand it as a characterization thing ... she got ambushed by her brother and was still a little flustered. However, in my opinion, she needs to start developing good "secret identity hygiene" habits early or she may come to regret it later. ^_^ She is one telephoto lens away from an 'incident'.
Steven-Vincent 10th Dec 2016, 1:29 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
You're going to enjoy the first couple of scenes of issue 5, I think... since they are partly about that.
Centcomm 10th Dec 2016, 4:06 PM edit delete reply
Centcomm
I think this follows the whole " Clark Kent hid his id with a pair of glasses.. " in a world of bio metrics and hyper intelligent villains and governments they would figure out who he was in a afternoon. But the setting of LL kinda forbids that kind of identity wash. so LL is quite safe from cameras after all no ones going to believe that a silly high school girl is the mighty liberty lass .. right? (( unless it makes good story. ))
Gilrandir 10th Dec 2016, 4:39 PM edit delete reply
From a narrative point of view, I think it would be fairer to say that Liberty Lass is safe from having her secret identity uncovered in such a manner as long as she is seen to make a reasonable effort to employ proper precautions. If, for some reason, she starts doing lots of stupid and careless things (not that I'm saying she will!) then the author is essentially painting himself into a corner where he has to do a "Liberty Lass ... Uncovered!" story, or risk losing the audience's suspension of disbelief. And we know he can't do that storyline until Abby has got a few more years under her corset. ^_^
Steven-Vincent 10th Dec 2016, 5:40 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Abby is definitely not immune to being found out of she flaunts her ID in public or doesn't take appropriate precautions. But she also is still new at this.

Here she is not doing that. She's flying with her little brother up high enough not to be seen.

The MUCH bigger danger here is TJ's big mouth, rather than someone with a telephoto lens.
Comic Fan 10th Dec 2016, 10:15 PM edit delete reply
Superman has occasionally lifted boats and planes sometimes with his hands on a single point of the hull with unequal weight distribution and no apparent torsional or shearing damage to the hull or underlying support structures.

Nobody ever seems to question it and artists never seem to explain it.
Steven-Vincent 10th Dec 2016, 10:21 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Right, for the same reason we don't question the Clark Kent glasses thing or the yellow sun giving him powers. They're genre conventions.
Gilrandir 10th Dec 2016, 11:31 PM edit delete reply
Actually the 'tactile telekinesis' of Superboy referenced above was one attempt to explain away things like that by the comic creators -- but it never really earned much respect from the fandom as far as I can tell. It just seemed to make things worse by focusing attention on the issue without really giving a satisfactory rationale.
Steven-Vincent 11th Dec 2016, 8:58 AM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
It makes it worse because they are trying to rationalize a genre convention. It's like when they use a voice changer for Batman to explain away why people would not recognize his voice. In the Bale movies, this only made Bale hard to understand. So it's more realistic. Is it worth the cost of not being able to hear the star's main lines of dialogue? IMO, it is not.

The TK/Strength stuff is the same thing. So the hero imparting some rudimentary flight onto everything she touches makes the physics work better. But it also makes her powers harder to understand and justify (especially in our case on this page). Is it worth the cost? Again, no.

The story on this page is: LL took her brother flying, and she's annoyed by it. All the rest of the details we're talking about are side issues. Trying to rationalize them or explain it away or even do the art differently wouldn't change the story and would probably just make the page worse.

Finally I would like to mention... originally I had TJ scripted to be riding piggy-back. But there is just no way to do that with the cape, because of how it works as a 3D object. So I gave up on that idea almost immediately and chose this pose as a way to tell the story but not have the 3D objects collide with each other. And as a bit of an homage to the Reeve movies, which again, I liked so much better than MoS. So it's a little bit of a nod to the Donner movie.
Gilrandir 11th Dec 2016, 12:53 PM edit delete reply
Understood. I'm not taking issue with the convention, I was just responding to @Comic Fan's statement that "... artists never seem to explain it."
Comic Fan 12th Dec 2016, 12:52 AM edit delete reply
I too am not taking issue with the convention or with the choices being made here. It's a minor issue.

Except to geeks. :D

Oh, another geeky thing...in one of the Superman comics (I think; maybe it was Year One?), it was mentioned that even as a kid, Clark's close-fitting clothing didn't seem to get as dirty or as ripped as other kids' clothes. Something about being close to his skin, which was pretty tough even when he was younger and before he started exhibiting superhuman abilities.

So that would work for the tights and boots, it was acknowledged, but the cape would have to be occasionally repaired or replaced until he started using Nomex, which is flame and heat resistant but not as strong as Kevlar.

But a protective aura would also prevent him from using his strength on anything he touches. So that's a wash.

So beyond the strength and flight things, Superhero costume logistics do fascinate me.

Many years ago, there was another comic story that actually showed Superman slipping Clark's street clothes into a pocket in the cape, just as he was about to fly off to save the day. I remember thinking that would be like carrying my dry cleaning around on my back.

A suit coat is heavy, pants and shirt would get wrinkled, and it would be annoying to be having my street shoes whacking me in the butt when I'm trying to fight armed bad guys.

The cape comment reminded me of an episode in the Batman Animated Series, there was one scene where Batgirl rides piggy-back style on Supergirl's shoulders. That was an endearing scene. Batgirl was whooping it up, and Supergirl said something like, "This is my favorite part!" I don't remember what Supergirl's cape was doing. It was a really short cape anyway with that style of Supergirl (white t-shirt).
Steven-Vincent 12th Dec 2016, 6:42 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
Supergirl also had a pouch of sorts inside her cape where she kept her clothing. This was shown explicitly in one of the early Daring New Adventures issues.

There was also a time when she had a compact (the kind that holds make-up) and she would super-compress her clothes to fit in there. But yeah they never mentioned wrinkles.

For LL... we've seen where she got her outfit... From Odo, tailor to the stars.
DizzasterJuice 10th Dec 2016, 6:55 PM edit delete reply
DizzasterJuice
...and these gloves are so slippery...
OOPS!, Sorry TJ :D
Steven-Vincent 10th Dec 2016, 8:54 PM edit delete reply
Steven-Vincent
LOL.
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